Dont worry everyone … Dont worry everyone, there is no god, enjoy life.
Morals come from within us because evolution through natural selection has made us that way.
The Bible is not the word of a god that does not exist, it is the work of man kind with all its bigotry and prejudice. There are some good teachings but it is all man made
Went there a couple of months and can’t remember him preaching on holiness.
The people who go to that church look like the world. When we confront the same group of people, on the streets when we proclaim the gospel, they hate us because they love their sin.
That church is an apostasy and anyone who goes to it will die w/ it once Christ judges the churches of America.
Funny, I just read … Funny, I just read a quote from driscoll that says “interviews are for guys that wear sans-a-belt slacks and chew sugar free gum.” What happened to that? Oh yeah he is just being consistent in his inconsistencies… This man misinterprets so many things in Christianity and half of his “verses” you can’t find in the bible where he says they are..
Been to that church … Been to that church… doesn’t teach on living a Holy life.
Looks like the world, talks like the world (talking about sex more than sexual immorality), acts like the world… that church is going to die w/ the world. 1 John 2:15
I greatly … I greatly appreciate your tact in briefly criticizing Pastor Driscoll. Rarely are people able to discuss their disagreements without personall attacking him. My question is this: What forum would you prefer? Keeping in mind, the service is over and people are free to leave if the please. Would we send them out into to world to discuss sex in far more vulgar manors?
I respect a lot of … I respect a lot of what Mark Driscoll has to say (not all but most), and I think he is generally solid on his knowledge of scripture. I was, however, disappointed with the way nightline presented his “story line.” I also wish that Driscoll would use a little more discression in the way he presents topics like sex… I think there is a forum for those questions and I would have to say a church service isn’t necassarily a place in which topics like “sexual positions” should be presented.
What is sad, is … What is sad, is that people like you won’t accept correction, even though it’s the word of God that corrects Heb 4:12-14 However, if you think you are above God’s authority and that Mark Driscoll is too, then it follows you will not accept correction, hence your comments. God’s word produces fruit 1 Peter 1:23 “Being born again not of corruptible seed but of incorruptible, by the Word of God that liveth and abideth forever.” Teaching that is not biblical corrupts.
seriously buddy? … seriously buddy? its a sad day when one christian tells another they wont see each other in Heaven. Makes me wonder if your heart has been truely regenerated/made new. As for the first part, Mark didn’t save me, but his teaching (like is his job) led me to salvation. At the end of the day, Mark worships Jesus, i worship Him, and I hope you do too. See you upstairs when the wings I love finally barbecue me back.
Do you know what … Do you know what the standards are for a pastor? He is to be above reproach in every way especially his speech so that the world cannot acuse him of any wrongs and this is because as a pastor you have more responsibility than the people in the congregation. Look up eph. 5:3-4 it talks about no coaarse jesting
So it seems to me … So it seems to me that you’re hearing him talk about sex and masturbation and automatically saying that he thinks it’s all fair game.
Listen to him talk about sex- he’ll say what it is- an amazing, fantastic, wonderful thing between two people who are dedicated to each other and no one else. He’ll also say that if you do it outside of marriage or it’s between two people of the same sex or if you do it by yourself in front of your computer, then you’re spitting on God and disrespecting yourself.
Don’t be such a … Don’t be such a prude. You’re the religious hypocrite the Bible speaks about. Mark’s not doing anything wrong. Just because he doesn’t wear a suit doesn’t mean anything. Being a pastor doesen’t mean being sinless. He’s reformed and orthodox in doctrine. Do some more research on the guy, listen to a few of his sermons for fee online, and perhaps you’ll wish your pastor was like him.
Firstly, it wasn’t … Firstly, it wasn’t Mark Driscoll who saved you, it was by the grace of God that you were saved. Once saved we become new creatures in Christ, and we turn away from sin….all sin, including sexual sin. Those who practice a different lifestyle are not born again. Mark Driscoll’s teachings promote sexual impurity through advocating masturbation amonst other things. If you think the same way, then we will not meet in heaven. Mat 7:23 Depart from me you evil doers I never knew you.
I don’t know much ” … I don’t know much “dude”, but Pastor Mark and those he preached to saved my soul from ation and me from myself. If you seem to believe he will end up in along with us he preaches to, please come find me bowing at the knees of the King with my hand on Mark’s shoulder in say, a couple millennia. I promise I won’t say I told you so. Hehe.
I’m sorry we … I’m sorry we waisted so much time arguing this pointless topic. We should agree to disagree. I got fired up when you said he is going to . The focus should always be on Jesus. Jesus is using Mark and Mars Hill Church and is bringing many people to a relationship with Christ. This is something to be celebrated. I would really suggest listening to some sermons, and being more informed before making such claims. He is one of the great bible teachers in our country.
Look Neil, clearly … Look Neil, clearly you won’t see the wood for the trees….your loss. Why would anyone masturbate UNLESS it was ociated with sexual thoughts? And what do you think those thoughts are….pure and without ? It is not a “touchy” subject it is a willful act of disobedience by an individual who puts carnal desire before spiritual obedience. And as for dragging anyone’s name thru the mud….that is your defence against correction. I have said nothing that can’t be biblically substantiated.
He tells a story … He tells a story about someone else that used a verse out of context , and it is funny, and he explained why he was wrong. If Romans 6:11 is your verse, you are uming that masturbation is a sin. If your thoughts are sinful while masturbating then the act is sinful as well. it’s a touchy subject and you are reaching to prove your point. I would suggest doing more research on a person before you start dragging some ones name through the mud. He’s a great bible teacher, check out more sermons.
Driscoll says “the … Driscoll says “the bible doesn’t mention masturbation” and strongly implies that due to this, masturbation is acceptable, he even uses a quote from the bible to make it seem humourous. This isn’t just blasphemous but it’s FALSE TEACHING. Rom 6:11 “therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires…….For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.”
Your defence of the … Your defence of the indefencible is exactly what one would expect when clear biblical doctrine is not applied. Regarding judgement? It is the Lord who judges and He does it through His word, which every believer is commanded to read, so as to be aware of false teaching. I suggest you go to the bible for instruction rather than relying on someone whose ‘controversial’ approach is exactly that….at variance with the word of God.
I’ve never heard … I’ve never heard Mark say that he’s an expert about sex. As for is ego issues, at least he is honest about what he struggles with. Do you have to be perfect to be a good leader? Mars Hill Church went through the song of solomon and this got a lot of hype because Mark doesn’t shy away from the controversial topics. Saying someone is only preaching on sex to get popular is pretty judgmental. You may want to do a little more research about Driscoll and Mars Hill Church before making such claims.
So, by his own … So, by his own admission he’s got an ego problem, he’s not an expert in humility but he appears to be in sex? Does that sound like someone who can lead you to Christ? This man will end up in himself along with those he preaches to, unless he starts to OBEY the word of God. 2 Tim 4:2-4 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine…..they will gather round teachers to tell them what they want to hear.” Sex or salvation?
1/28/2009 - Nightline: Evangelical preacher Mark Driscoll talks sex and Jesus.
25 Responses
roac7777
2009 Jul 12 1Dont worry everyone …
Dont worry everyone, there is no god, enjoy life.
Morals come from within us because evolution through natural selection has made us that way.
The Bible is not the word of a god that does not exist, it is the work of man kind with all its bigotry and prejudice. There are some good teachings but it is all man made
NobodySpecial85
2009 Jul 12 2Yes it was.
Went …
Yes it was.
Went there a couple of months and can’t remember him preaching on holiness.
The people who go to that church look like the world. When we confront the same group of people, on the streets when we proclaim the gospel, they hate us because they love their sin.
That church is an apostasy and anyone who goes to it will die w/ it once Christ judges the churches of America.
neilhuck
2009 Jul 12 3How do you avoid …
How do you avoid talking about sex when you are preaching through song of songs?
neilhuck
2009 Jul 12 4I don’t know what …
I don’t know what church you went to but it wasn’t Mars Hill Church.
ryann30
2009 Jul 12 5Funny, I just read …
Funny, I just read a quote from driscoll that says “interviews are for guys that wear sans-a-belt slacks and chew sugar free gum.” What happened to that? Oh yeah he is just being consistent in his inconsistencies… This man misinterprets so many things in Christianity and half of his “verses” you can’t find in the bible where he says they are..
NobodySpecial85
2009 Jul 12 6Been to that church …
Been to that church… doesn’t teach on living a Holy life.
Looks like the world, talks like the world (talking about sex more than sexual immorality), acts like the world… that church is going to die w/ the world. 1 John 2:15
pulleyjay
2009 Jul 12 7I greatly …
I greatly appreciate your tact in briefly criticizing Pastor Driscoll. Rarely are people able to discuss their disagreements without personall attacking him. My question is this: What forum would you prefer? Keeping in mind, the service is over and people are free to leave if the please. Would we send them out into to world to discuss sex in far more vulgar manors?
sweetlorraine524
2009 Jul 12 8I respect a lot of …
I respect a lot of what Mark Driscoll has to say (not all but most), and I think he is generally solid on his knowledge of scripture. I was, however, disappointed with the way nightline presented his “story line.” I also wish that Driscoll would use a little more discression in the way he presents topics like sex… I think there is a forum for those questions and I would have to say a church service isn’t necassarily a place in which topics like “sexual positions” should be presented.
blessingborn
2009 Jul 12 9What is sad, is …
What is sad, is that people like you won’t accept correction, even though it’s the word of God that corrects Heb 4:12-14 However, if you think you are above God’s authority and that Mark Driscoll is too, then it follows you will not accept correction, hence your comments. God’s word produces fruit 1 Peter 1:23 “Being born again not of corruptible seed but of incorruptible, by the Word of God that liveth and abideth forever.” Teaching that is not biblical corrupts.
americansmark
2009 Jul 12 10seriously buddy? …
seriously buddy? its a sad day when one christian tells another they wont see each other in Heaven. Makes me wonder if your heart has been truely regenerated/made new. As for the first part, Mark didn’t save me, but his teaching (like is his job) led me to salvation. At the end of the day, Mark worships Jesus, i worship Him, and I hope you do too. See you upstairs when the wings I love finally barbecue me back.
mollyryan25
2009 Jul 12 11Do you know what …
Do you know what the standards are for a pastor? He is to be above reproach in every way especially his speech so that the world cannot acuse him of any wrongs and this is because as a pastor you have more responsibility than the people in the congregation. Look up eph. 5:3-4 it talks about no coaarse jesting
lidgerwood
2009 Jul 12 12So it seems to me …
So it seems to me that you’re hearing him talk about sex and masturbation and automatically saying that he thinks it’s all fair game.
Listen to him talk about sex- he’ll say what it is- an amazing, fantastic, wonderful thing between two people who are dedicated to each other and no one else. He’ll also say that if you do it outside of marriage or it’s between two people of the same sex or if you do it by yourself in front of your computer, then you’re spitting on God and disrespecting yourself.
Brian685
2009 Jul 12 13Don’t be such a …
Don’t be such a prude. You’re the religious hypocrite the Bible speaks about. Mark’s not doing anything wrong. Just because he doesn’t wear a suit doesn’t mean anything. Being a pastor doesen’t mean being sinless. He’s reformed and orthodox in doctrine. Do some more research on the guy, listen to a few of his sermons for fee online, and perhaps you’ll wish your pastor was like him.
blessingborn
2009 Jul 12 14Firstly, it wasn’t …
Firstly, it wasn’t Mark Driscoll who saved you, it was by the grace of God that you were saved. Once saved we become new creatures in Christ, and we turn away from sin….all sin, including sexual sin. Those who practice a different lifestyle are not born again. Mark Driscoll’s teachings promote sexual impurity through advocating masturbation amonst other things. If you think the same way, then we will not meet in heaven. Mat 7:23 Depart from me you evil doers I never knew you.
americansmark
2009 Jul 12 15I don’t know much ” …
I don’t know much “dude”, but Pastor Mark and those he preached to saved my soul from ation and me from myself. If you seem to believe he will end up in along with us he preaches to, please come find me bowing at the knees of the King with my hand on Mark’s shoulder in say, a couple millennia. I promise I won’t say I told you so. Hehe.
neilhuck
2009 Jul 12 16I’m sorry we …
I’m sorry we waisted so much time arguing this pointless topic. We should agree to disagree. I got fired up when you said he is going to . The focus should always be on Jesus. Jesus is using Mark and Mars Hill Church and is bringing many people to a relationship with Christ. This is something to be celebrated. I would really suggest listening to some sermons, and being more informed before making such claims. He is one of the great bible teachers in our country.
blessingborn
2009 Jul 12 17Look Neil, clearly …
Look Neil, clearly you won’t see the wood for the trees….your loss. Why would anyone masturbate UNLESS it was ociated with sexual thoughts? And what do you think those thoughts are….pure and without ? It is not a “touchy” subject it is a willful act of disobedience by an individual who puts carnal desire before spiritual obedience. And as for dragging anyone’s name thru the mud….that is your defence against correction. I have said nothing that can’t be biblically substantiated.
neilhuck
2009 Jul 12 18He tells a story …
He tells a story about someone else that used a verse out of context , and it is funny, and he explained why he was wrong. If Romans 6:11 is your verse, you are uming that masturbation is a sin. If your thoughts are sinful while masturbating then the act is sinful as well. it’s a touchy subject and you are reaching to prove your point. I would suggest doing more research on a person before you start dragging some ones name through the mud. He’s a great bible teacher, check out more sermons.
blessingborn
2009 Jul 12 19Driscoll says “the …
Driscoll says “the bible doesn’t mention masturbation” and strongly implies that due to this, masturbation is acceptable, he even uses a quote from the bible to make it seem humourous. This isn’t just blasphemous but it’s FALSE TEACHING. Rom 6:11 “therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires…….For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.”
neilhuck
2009 Jul 12 20I’ve never heard …
I’ve never heard any false teaching.
blessingborn
2009 Jul 12 21Your defence of the …
Your defence of the indefencible is exactly what one would expect when clear biblical doctrine is not applied. Regarding judgement? It is the Lord who judges and He does it through His word, which every believer is commanded to read, so as to be aware of false teaching. I suggest you go to the bible for instruction rather than relying on someone whose ‘controversial’ approach is exactly that….at variance with the word of God.
neilhuck
2009 Jul 12 22I’ve never heard …
I’ve never heard Mark say that he’s an expert about sex. As for is ego issues, at least he is honest about what he struggles with. Do you have to be perfect to be a good leader? Mars Hill Church went through the song of solomon and this got a lot of hype because Mark doesn’t shy away from the controversial topics. Saying someone is only preaching on sex to get popular is pretty judgmental. You may want to do a little more research about Driscoll and Mars Hill Church before making such claims.
blessingborn
2009 Jul 12 23So, by his own …
So, by his own admission he’s got an ego problem, he’s not an expert in humility but he appears to be in sex? Does that sound like someone who can lead you to Christ? This man will end up in himself along with those he preaches to, unless he starts to OBEY the word of God. 2 Tim 4:2-4 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine…..they will gather round teachers to tell them what they want to hear.” Sex or salvation?
jessitosa
2009 Jul 12 24amen to 31stmp
I …
amen to 31stmp
I have grown heaps from Peasant Princess and going through Trial right now. I love it.
jdhibb
2009 Jul 12 25best pastor in …
best pastor in america
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